Part 8

Zerovirus
SOME MORE RAIL OF MOBIUS REAL FAST WHILE I HAVE THE TIME
Title screen changed again! Not to anything actually new mind you.
Deleted User
timetime
Zerovirus
We're in the first car VIP bedroom again with Qian Yuan and Se Yue. Se Yue's prepared some tea and light snacks for us, apparently. How thoughtful of her.

Se Yue: So, I recall, last time we were talking about deja vu.

Se Yue: That is, the phenomenon where you see something for the first time, but feel like it's familiar somehow.

oh god right that. the whole thing where deja vu means you're a time traveler who lost their memories to the dread specter of novikov.

Se Yue: Deja Vu, like the Mandela Effect, may be related to the self-corrective measures that time takes to ensure its own consistency-

Wu Shi: I'm sorry, the what? The Muggle Effect?

Wu Shi continues to not know anything at all. Head empty, no thoughts.
Deleted User
isn't that his default state of mind
Zerovirus
Wu Shi's failed knowledge check is apparently INCREDIBLY amusing to Se Yue, who spends the next minute giggling.

Wu Shi: Uh. Is she okay?

Qian Yuan: She has a weird sense of humor that gets ticked by the weirdest things sometime, just roll with it.

Wu Shi: ...You know, if I were to film this scene, I could probably blackmail Cesium for, like, a load of money.

Qian Yuan: Your ability to speak even the most despicable of your thoughts without self-censorship is astonishing as ever.

She smiled at me menacingly, and I immediately dropped the idea.

Zerovirus

After a minute, Se Yue finally recovered from her bout of laughing.

Se Yue: -I say, Wu Shi, you've got quite the talent for stand-up comedy. In every way you are equal to the best of the jokes from my joke book.

Wu Shi: ...Th...anks??

Was she calling me a joke?

nightpool
her joke books
Benedict
wu shi is kind of a joke
Zerovirus

Se Yue: Anyways, the Mandela Effect is talking about a certain african political leader whom many people thought had died in prison in the 1980s. In reality, Mandela only passed in 2013, and he'd even been the president of South Africa.

Wu Shi: So, what you're saying is, sometimes collective knowledge isn't in sync with the facts.

Se Yue: That's right. That's the Mandela Effect- or, as I like to call it- the Collective Memory Desynchronization.

Wu Shi: That's... so bizarre.

Se Yue: Let me raise another example.

Se Yue: You've seen P█kachu from P█kemon before, right?

Wu Shi: Sure.

P█kachu was a mainstay of everyone's childhoods, after all.

Se Yue: So, what color is P█kachu's tail?

Wu Shi: Eh?

Se Yue: Is it pure yellow or yellow with a bit of black at the end?

oh boy a CHOICE
time to see if we're getting mandela-effected
Benedict
it's got the bit of black at the end, right?
nightpool
that's what they want you to think
Zerovirus

Bit of black at the end

Pure yellow

Fully black, with gothic lolita lacing

Deleted User
obv gothic lolita lacing
nightpool
lol
Deleted User
big part of my childhood
can't forget that lacy tail of pikachu
Benedict
i mean they've changed the design a few times, i think modern pikachu is solid yellow, at least the heart-shaped-tail female ones
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: SOLID BLACK WITH FRILLY LACE.

Deleted User
YES
Zerovirus

Se Yue: .....

nightpool
tell me we didn't lose a heart for that one
jjjqance
Did the characters discuss the mandrla effect in an earlier scene?
Benedict
oh, i looked it up, i had it backwards
Deleted User
no
jjjqance
This feels familiar
Zerovirus

Qian Yuan: I-is that really what the P█kachu of your heart looks like, senpai??

Benedict
it has the brown bit at the base of the tail
not the tip
the ears have black tips
jjjqance
I remember looking up Pikachu to check this
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Like a week ago
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Oh no
The déjà vu
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: Is it not?

Se Yue: Qian Yuan, show him the proof.

Qian Yuan: Yes ma'am.

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Qian Yuan pulled a P█kachu-shaped keychain from her coat.

jjjqance
Oh it was a different game that discussed the mandela effect. I remember now
Zerovirus

I looked carefully at its tail-

Wu Shi: Oh, gosh.

It was pure yellow.

Frankly, the fact that my first impression had differed from the truth had made me more than a little disturbed.

Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Shitty figures, costs less to paint it all yellow
Zerovirus

Qian Yuan: Also, here's a P█kachu doll.

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avunvain
wu shi: confirmed into pikachu tails
Hakurei06
wait
Zerovirus

Qian Yuan kept pulling thing after thing from her dress.

Hakurei06
i thought there was black on the tail
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Why do both games use this wrong comparison for the effect wtf ahah
Hakurei06
oh, is that the Mandela?
jjjqance
Yeah I looked it up and it was dark at the base
Deleted User
man I guess that these girls are pretty big pokemon nerds
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Now this needs to be the canon name of any Pikachu
MANDELA
Zerovirus

Qian Yuan: Here's a P█kachu pillowcase, a P█kachu purse, a P█kachu bento box, a P█kachu hat, a P█kachu lapel pin, a P█kachu nametag, a P█kachu-themed transparent document binder, a P█kachu-themed chest pad...

avunvain
also: pikachu tails are not pure yellow!!
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...oh my god they are
oh my god what the fuck
Deleted User
POKEMON NERDS
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: OKAY I get it! I completely and thoroughly understand the appearance of P█kachu tails now!!

Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Imagine this but she was a Mandela fan
jjjqance
Zerovirus
(for full disclosure: my first impression was that the pikachu tail was pure yellow actually)
jjjqance
What are the talking about
There is clearly a brown spot
Zerovirus
(i have a distinct childhood memory of watching pikachu use iron spin, which framed the tail very clearly in camera so i have a distinct mental reference image of it)
Deleted User
did you even watch the anime
avunvain
oh i might be thinking of the brown around the base
Benedict
wait, why do they have a pikachu-themed-
never mind
avunvain
pikachu-themed S mask
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jjjqance
This comment went underappreciated
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Zerovirus

Hearing my exclamation, Qian Yuan disappointedly put all of her pieces of P█kaphernalia back into her dress, one by one.

...She clearly had a LOT of room under that skirt, judging by how much P█kastuff she was able to fit under there, but I probably shouldn't ask any questions about that.

Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Tbf it was ignored because of a pikachu pic so it's acceptable
Wait it was literally under her dress
Not like under the bed
jjjqance
Maid superpowers
Deleted User
NINJA MAIDO
Zerovirus

Se Yue: In conclusion, from these pieces of evidence we can reasonably deduce that this world may have been changed by the acts of time-travelers, leading to what we know as the Mandela Effect.

Wu Shi: Who the fuck would go back in time just to change the color of P█kachu's tail?

smh i can't believe qian yuan accidentally changed the color of pikachu's tail as a byproduct of looping endlessly in an infinite abyss of despair to try to save her brother
...fuck, you know how i keep making fucking jokes before i click to the next screen and then the game itself doubles-down on the same joke i just told
that just happened again

Qian Yuan: ME! I would totally do that!

girl you just fucking had an emotional scene where you told us how terrible it was to loop time and how you would rather die than do it again
avunvain
...to what, qian yuan?
Zerovirus
what the fuck
avunvain
like what would you even change pikachu's tail color to
jjjqance
If this is S's motivation
avunvain
why are you invested in this
Deleted User
man qian is truly twisted
avunvain
sufficiently invested to overcome your weird time trauma
jjjqance
Maybe this is qian's mask she was talking about
Zerovirus
combine pikachu and marill back into their primordial form pikablu. everything wrong in the timeline began when pikablu was erased and divided into two weaker components.
avunvain
ensure that clefairy becomes the pokemon mascot
as god intended
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jjjqance
Switch butterfree and venomoth
Zerovirus
"yeah see the S costume is actually a fursuit. there used to be a red and black plague doctor pokemon in the original generation. everything i am doing here is to ensure that my personal blorbo returns to the franchise."
oh my fucking god this story is doubling down on it TWICE
tripling down
Deleted User
it's actually her F U R S O N A
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Zerovirus

...Her characterization was just completely collapsing now, wasn't it?

Didn't you JUST explain to me how you had all these psychological scars because of your experience with looping time?

lampshading it does not explain it, game. but i still chuckled. just because this game keeps making the same jokes i do immediately after i make them.
wait is that what's called deja vu
am i a time traveler too
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jjjqance
God what
That's actually from the story?
Zerovirus
yes

Se Yue: Anyways, there's lots more examples of the Mandela Effect, do you want to try them?

HELL YEAH I DO!

HELL NO I DON'T!

Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
I do
Deleted User
YES
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
I do
Zerovirus
i feel like 'yes' is the only reasonable answer, let's fucking waste all our time
Deleted User
YES
avunvain
please
Zerovirus
on this absolute fucking nonsense
S shows up and hears us arguing about whether their fursuit was a time-erased pokemon and just gives up on all hope
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Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Let's chez our collective consciousness
For MEMES
avunvain
"you know what," says ji hengsheng
"maybe i don't need to save wu shi from that fire"
"maybe events can just kind of take their course"
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Se Yue: "OMG GUYS PLEASE STOP, I AM S, IS THAT DRAMATIC ENOUGH FOR YOU TO STOP TALKING ABOUT TIME TRAVELING POKEMON FURSONAS?"
Wu Shi: "we can always pick that back up next loop, thanks for telling us though"
avunvain
Wu Shi: Ahah! Operation: Fursona worked like a charm!
Zerovirus

Se Yue: In the sculpture 'The Thinker' by Rodin, is the fist lifted to rest on the statue's forehead or chin?

The fist is resting on the statue's forehead.

The fist is resting on the statue's chin.

holy shit the game's actually letting us do it
Deleted User
FOREHEAD
Zerovirus
just a random middle-of-nowhere quiz
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Chin?
jjjqance
I've never heard of it
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avunvain
hearts should pop up here imo
Deleted User
it's actually the chin
but vote
Zerovirus
sadly there are no hearts but i wish there were
Deleted User
FOREHEAD
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Forhead seems like it s defeated lol
Zerovirus
i would love to waste all of my time energy on bullshit like this
jjjqance
Oh this
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Like it would be the "stopthinkingplease" statuz ahha
avunvain
chin
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Voting forehead is based though
Zerovirus
i honestly have no idea why anybody would ever guess forehead
like, there's no way that's a REAL mandela-ism
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Zerovirus

Se Yue: Yep, it was the chin.

Se Yue: On the pants worn by M█ckey Mouse, are there two suspender straps or are there not?

YES

NO

not even any funny conversation pieces
jjjqance
I have no idea
Zerovirus
just 'you got it, next one'
avunvain
what if you answer wrong
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Doesn't that depend on the version?
Zerovirus
also it depends on if we're talking about steamboat willie mickey mouse or modern mickey mouse
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Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
I would say yes
Zerovirus
yeah
Zerovirus
i have no idea! should we try?
avunvain
let's!
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
You lose a heart I hope
avunvain
i mean i assume we get the bad end instantly
as wu shi is defeated by trivia
but it's worth it
Zerovirus

Se Yue: Nope, there never were any such straps.

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Wu Shi's soul is sundered in twain by this revelation.
jjjqance
Maybe this is all a hint that this doesn't take place in our universe
Zerovirus

Se Yue: In the Mona Lisa, does Mona Lisa's smile cause the corners of her mouth to angle upwards or not?

YES

NO

holy shit it's still going
Deleted User
NO
Zerovirus
i legitimately have no idea on this one. like it really depends on what she means by angle. even at rest all mouths have a natural angle.
jjjqance
One of them looks angled
The other corner looks flat
Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
I would say no
jjjqance
But it v probably means "is her mouth in a bowl shape"
Zerovirus
apparently the right answer was yes.
Deleted User
???
Zerovirus

Se Yue: One of the corners of her mouth is in fact angled up!

Wu Shi: ARE YOU SERIOUS?

jjjqance
These questions suck ass
Zerovirus

Se Yue: The rate at which people answered these questions incorrectly in the past has been unimaginably high, believe it or not.

Wu Shi: The more of these questions I heard, the more I wondered whether you weren't making these up to fuck with me.

Se Yue: Good conversation material, in any case, don't you think?

She took another sip of her tea.

Without realizing it, time had slipped away in our cheerful conversation.

yo is this game serious
was that ACTUALLY a real plot-changing choice we made, to fuck around with random bullshit quizzes instead of do plot shit
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Chaos' Crowl Kanigami
Ahahaha
That would be great
nightpool
hahahaha
we deserve it
Zerovirus
yep. holy shit. the game actually punished us for faffing about. we wasted all our time we could have used to plan out how to capture S and now we're almost at the Midway Station- i.e., where the bonfire barbecue dance thing happens and where Ji is going to propose to us.

Se Yue: We're basically out of time now, we don't have any more time left to deal with S. What we need to focus on right now while we still have a bit of time left is one particularly important matter...

Se Yue: Your eventual death, I mean.

Wu Shi: ...Right.

Zerovirus

I'd almost forgotten about the way this whole thing began, the fact that I was predetermined to die and be used as fuel.

Se Yue: To prevent you from dying the same away as last time, we're definitely not going to just let you go right back out there where S could get you.

Se Yue: For the rest of this trip you'll be staying in my bedroom.

HOUSE ARREST 2: RETURN OF THE HOUSE ARREST
nightpool
it's possible we would have gotten to this situation anyway
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if we had taken the other option, se yue could have just as easily forced us at gunpoint to listen to more Mandela effect examples
or talk about some other bullshit
jjjqance
Umm but didn't s attack us from under the bed in one route
Zerovirus
ye
jjjqance
Are we gonna check under the bed
Zerovirus
we still don't know how they achieved that.
nightpool
but if we don't go to the midnight bonfire, Ji won't be able to confess to us!!!
this is way more important than S
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Zerovirus
Se Yue tells him that he'll be staying in her room until noon of the next day, which means he's going to be skipping the bonfire this loop. She's also going to put Qian Yuan on door duty, and not allow anybody to enter her bedroom other than herself.

Wu Shi: But... what about the bonfire party?

Se Yue: You're not allowed to attend.

I immediately tried to duck out the door to the VIP cabin, but Se Yue grabbed my wrist and forced me into a wrist-lock immediately when I tried to turn away from her.

Se Yue: Did I not make myself clear?

She was grinning resplendently as she said those words.

Se Yue: You. Aren't. Going. Anywhere~!

Zerovirus

Wu Shi: ...I have a very important reason for going, though. I have to go.

Se Yue: I can probably guess what it is, but for the sake of your life you're just going to have to control yourself for a loop.

Wu Shi: I can't, there's something I have to get-

...actually, that reminds me.
at the VERY start of the game, wu shi didn't... drop the ring?
like, in loop 1, the first death we see, at the very beginning back when we had absolutely no context, we didn't see wu shi fumble for a marriage proposal ring and drop it
in every single loop subsequent to that, whenever he was about to die he'd get that ring out and fumble it away and THEN drown
did ji not propose to him in loop 1 for some reason?
maybe i'm overthinking this.
jjjqance
Maybe the ring has a tracker in it
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: That thing is more precious to me than anything.

Wu Shi: No matter what, even if I risk my life, I have to go get it.

Wu Shi: I didn't want to explain it to you yet, but if you're going to keep me here then I have no choice. The thing I'm talking about is...

Wu Shi: THE DELICIOUS BARBECUUUUUEEEEEEE!

Deleted User
.....
Zerovirus
...man. i miss wu shi and ji hengsheng's standup comedy act involving wu shi naming fancy foods and ji hengsheng naming how expensive she thinks they are.
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nightpool
I am going to kill wu shi myself
I can see why yu guang did it now
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: BEEF TONGUE!

Wu Shi: HIGH-QUALITY KOBE BEEF!

Wu Shi: Top-quality beef tripe, tenderloin, chilled beef ribs, chargrilled sweetmeats, smoked beef belly, and the deliciously chewy yet tender hearts and neck meat!

Se Yue: Gosh. You have such a great memory for these things.

Wu Shi: I absolutely NEED to eat these delectable delicacies, ESPECIALLY if it's the last thing I do before I die!

Se Yue: No, I mean, weren't you going to attend with Yu Guang and Ji Hengsheng and form lasting bonding memories for a lifetime?

Wu Shi: Eh, I see those two around all the time. The meat's way harder to come by in comparison.

Se Yue: ...You three are friends, right? I just- I need a bit of confirmation again.

Wu Shi: As they say, the most important buds you have are your tastebuds. I'm sure that both of them would agree with me on this one.

Se Yue: .....

Wu Shi: IN CONCLUSION I AM GOING TO THAT BARBECUE PARTY AND IT'S FINAL.

Se Yue: NO!

Wu Shi: IF YOU DON'T LET ME GO I WILL MAKE A MESS OF YOUR ROOM AND DIG YOUR PORN MAGAZINES OUT AND TELL EVERYONE ABOUT YOUR FETISHES!

Se Yue: I HAVE NO SUCH THINGS!

Wu Shi: No fetishes? Damn, I'm so sorry that you've been developmentally stunted.

Se Yue: YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S STUNTED, OKAY?!

(this segment is translated essentially line for line.)
jjjqance
Impressed the pun worked so well
Zerovirus

With some kind of clever twist- some sort of judo thing?- she knocked me down to the floor.

Se Yue: YOU sit RIGHT here and don't even THINK about going anywhere.

Zerovirus

Wu Shi: Idunwanna!

Se Yue: Fine. Your determination has moved my heart, and I will generously make a concession to you in light of your brave defiance.

Se Yue: You can have as many of my biscuit straw snacks as you'd like while you're in my room.

Wu Shi: NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR SHITTY-ASS JUNK FOOD SNACKS.

Zerovirus

Se Yue looked wounded by those words.

...I cannot fucking believe this. Come on, isn't the heir of the Se Family not supposed to show weakness or whatever?

Please don't tell me that your love of sweet biscuit straws is actually your true one weak point.

Se Yue: ...Look, just, stay put for now.

jjjqance
Just ... bring the barbecue back to the room?
avunvain
I want a sweet biscuit straw now
nightpool
I want to not stand ji up! what the fuck!
what the fuck wu shi!
you deserve death for this
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Zerovirus

Ignoring my words, she closed the door and locked it, and then leaned against it, her back to the door.

Wu Shi: ........

Well, even though I'd said all that,

what I'd really been after was an excuse to receive Ji Hengsheng's ring at the bonfire.

Ji Hengsheng surely must have gathered her courage for a long, long time, to be able to propose marriage to me with that ring.

If I were in her place, no matter what happened afterwards, I'd surely want the other side to understand the depth of my feelings.

If I really missed the bonfire event, I'd surely regret it for a lifetime.

Wu Shi: ...Sorry, lady.

Picking up a chair, I smashed it against one of the weak connector points in the window, broke it, and climbed out through the window.

good news it looks like he's going to die again now! you can all rest assured.
nightpool
you idiot (relieved)
jjjqance
Ahhh
nightpool
use your words wu shi
Zerovirus

I'd been on the roof of this train enough times that it was second nature to me now.

Wu Shi: Sorry, but I'll be back as soon as midnight's over! You can do whatever you'd like to me after that, princess!

jjjqance
So cute
Zerovirus

Se Yue: GET BACK HERE, WU SHI! IT'S DANGEROUS!

Wu Shi: Relax, princess, I'll be back before you know it-

Se Yue: GET DOWN, NOW! WE'RE ALMOST AT MIDPOINT!

...Eh?

Suddenly, I felt the train shake violently beneath me. It almost knocked me off my balance.

then there was... a massive crash.
exhales
time to fucking reload
avunvain
oh my god
Zerovirus
fuck, when did i last save?
gonna have to rapid click again god damn it
avunvain
no skip button or rapid auto?
Zerovirus
i do not trust the skip button, one time i clicked it and it crashed the game too
my shining finger that burns with an awesome power is all i need
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Deleted User
mebe S doesn't want you to finish the game
SHINING FINGERRRRRRR
Zerovirus
mother of fuck i'm all the way back at the start of the bullshit mandela quiz
hey what if we skip the quiz this time
imma try that
hm. nothing different happened.
instead of wasting our time on trivia quizzes, we wasted our time on 'discussing internal politics of the Se Family'.
none of it textual, mind you.
just a 'and then time passed as we commiserated over how fucked-up se yue's dad was'.
i'm going to go back and do the trivia quizzes.
Zerovirus
okay i'm back where we were and
oh.
so it turns out,
when the train is entering midpoint station,
it makes a relatively sharper turn than it's ever done on the undersea rail circuit.
nightpool
i'm
Zerovirus
the net result of this is that, if you're standing on the roof of the train at that moment, there's a jolt of centrifugal force
that actually
knocks you off
the roof of the train.
which is what just happened.
Deleted User
did he just die?!?!?
avunvain
"fuuuuuuck," declares wu shi, dying
nightpool
screenshot???
Zerovirus

Se Yue reached out to me, and I to her, but our fingers slipped past each other's by just a fraction of a centimeter-

And I was flung off the train.

there is no screenshot, just a flash of red onscreen, followed by fade-to-black.
jjjqance
S stands for Stupidity
Deleted User
S stands for smooth brain
Zerovirus
YEP WE'RE LOOPING
here we go, loop 2
Deleted User
this is the funniest death
Zerovirus
you see that? that is an angery se yue
avunvain
"Someone died because you wanted barbecue, Wu Shi."
Zerovirus
'next time i will remember to fucking tie you up with some goddamn handcuffs you fucking scampering rat on adderall.' 'handcuffs?! in your BEDROOM?! so you DO have a fetish!' 'i will murder you. no, qian yuan will murder you.'
avunvain
"Their fuel became the flame grilling your wagyu."
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jjjqance
presumably this is a fate induced death? is he always gonna die at this time no matter what?
so uh anyway i can't wait to learn all that happened in loop 1
Zerovirus
he was 'supposed' to die 12 hours later, at the NEXT noon
jjjqance
did ji hengsheng cry
Zerovirus
but hey it's a new set of loops maybe the timeline is different

Qian Yuan: Senpai, are you alright?

Wu Shi: incoherent screaming caused by memory reinvestiture

jjjqance
what if this was actually just a total accident, but the result is that NOW his fate-ordained death has moved up
that would be pretty funny
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: continues having trauma flashbacks to all the times he's died. usually by drowning or by falling asleep. falling off the train and cracking his skull is a new one.

Deleted User
what a dumbass
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: hyperventilates for a whole minute as his mind struggles to reintegrate all these new memories.

nightpool
don't be fooled. that's just his resting smug face
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jjjqance
lol it looks like he's standing on the sloped edge
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no wonder he fell off
Zerovirus

Se Yue: Are you done?

Se Yue: If you are, here's the briefing.

Se Yue: We're back on noon of the second day. You refused to listen to me and fell off the top of the train. We stopped the train immediately and tried to save you, but you entered a coma state we couldn't treat with the instruments in the infirmary alone, and you finally perished- exactly at noon on the 3rd day, just as scheduled.

Se Yue: Is there anything you'd like to say to me, young man?

Wu Shi: ...Sorry.

Se Yue: Your head's tilted up too high.

I lowered my head until it was all the way at th efloor.

Wu Shi: ...Really really sorry.

Se Yue: Qian Yuan, stomp on this idiot for me.

Qian Yuan: Yes ma'am.

Wu Shi: Wait, why aren't you stomping on me?

Se Yue: I'd like to avoid dirtying my precious foot.

Se Yue grinned.

Se Yue: Also, because I don't want you treating this as some kind of reward.

i thought you didn't have fetishes, se yue.
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Zerovirus
...fade to black, cut scene. after that, which i don't think i would like to contemplate any further,

Se Yue: I turned back time, using your corpse as the fuel.

okay so, changing time travelers refreshes all corpse-fuel usabilities confirmed through experimental evidence
nightpool
well
wu shi was always a bit of a weird case.
but yes
we can call that basically confirmed
jjjqance
We don't know for sure he was used as fuel
Only S claimed so
Zerovirus

Se Yue: I'm honestly impressed how surprising time's interventions can be at times.

Se Yue: Did you know, in order to prevent your death by drowning this time, I set up a ton of interventions?

Se Yue: I've already called the Family and ordered them to put a full squad of medical and rescue professionals at the terminal station.

Se Yue: I've also ordered the preparation of anti-flooding measures to be preemptively readied, in preparation for the inevitable flooding that will occur tomorrow.

Se Yue: I figured, with all that, there was no WAY you'd be able to somehow drown yourself tomorrow.

Se Yue: And then you throw your own damn self off a moving train at full speed.

Wu Shi, weakly, knowing he doesn't have a foot to stand on: ...I said I was sorry...

jjjqance
it sounds like fate HAD to find a ridiculous way fo rhim to die
in order to avoid surprises, they should just plan to have him die in a normal way by drowning at the end
jjjqance
actually, they should plan to kill Wu Shi easily only in the case that they learn key information about S's identity & plans
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Zerovirus

Se Yue: I'm still optimistic though. As long as we keep plugging holes in Time's self-consistency measures I'm sure we'll be able to plug all the leaks and prevent your death.

...I wasn't really sure that'd work, myself.

Se Yue: By the way, S didn't show up at all in the previous timeline.

huh. weird. why didn't S show up??

Se Yue: In any case, I hope this all has convinced you to stay put nice and safe right here, in my bedroom, young man.

Wu Shi: ...Yeah...

Se Yue: LOUDER! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Se Yue and Wu Shi decide that, in order to minimize variables, they should do exactly what they did last loop.
This of course means that Qian Yuan has to dress up as S again.
jjjqance
are we ever gonna ask ...
Zerovirus
Wu Shi, of course, being the person who opens the door to the fake S, has to pretend to be surprised by the fake S's showing up. Hopefully he's good at acting!
Deleted User
watch qian be murdered
and the real S to show up
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: How could- hrk- uh- ahem- How could this be?!

S, dragging their iron pipe on the ground, showed up right as scheduled.

Wu Shi: Wuaaaaaaahhhh~. I'm so scaaaaared~.

Wu Shi is not a good actor.

Yu Guang, who's buying it hook line and sinker: EVERYONE! RUN!

S: My target is Wu Shi alone.

Wu Shi: Aaaaaaaugh.... I'm so scaaaaared, mommyyyyyy~....

Wu Shi: I'm scawed... It's scawy! Eeeeek! I'm so scaaaared-

Se Yue: Wu Shi, please do us a favor and shut the fuck up.

Wu Shi: Eh? But I've been working so hard at my performance...

Se Yue: Just shut up.

After all that, Qian Yuan comes to find me at my bed again, just like in last loop. I immediately preempt her by telling her that I already know everything she was going to tell me anyways.

nightpool
boooo
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: But I don't mind listening to it a second time, if it makes you feel better! Go on ahead.

Qian Yuan gave me a very strange look.

Yeah, I guess I'm not... very good at doing the same things over and over again by mechanical rote.

And so we've gotten to 8PM on the second day, in Se Yue's personal bedroom.
Se Yue gives the whole 'we'll be stopping here, this is all part of the plan, everyone please disembark in an orderly fashion' spiel again.
Wu Shi will not be attending this time obviously.

Wu Shi: The worst part is that the princess has gone on ahead to the party herself, on account of needing to give that opening speech or whatever. That's so rude of her.

Se Yue, appearing unexpectedly: I say, you are a master of saying rude things about people right in front of them.

jjjqance
tell her to fetch our platonic gf so she can proposeee
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: I disagree that my words can be construed as an insult. The way I see it, they're objective descriptions of the truth.

Wu Shi: I am your faithful servant, milady, and as your faithful servant I strive to speak nothing but the unvarnished truth to you.

Se Yue: ...Yep, that's you alright. You've always been this way as long as I've known you.

Wu Shi: ...You haven't known me since before this loop though- oh, you mean, before all this, on the very first day when I followed you and you called my name asking me if I saw the 13th train car. Riiiight.

Wu Shi: Actually, yeah. If we'd never met before that how'd you know my name?

Se Yue: Ugh, this is what's irritating about you. You're sharp enough to remember the tiniest of details sometimes.

...y'know, i still haven't seen what happens if i just hang out with my friends and don't go stalk se yue at the very start of the game.

Se Yue: Don't misunderstand me. I just memorized the names of every student that was going on this trip before the trip started.

Wu Shi: Wow, real genius brain you've got.

Se Yue: As the host of this event, it's my responsibility to firmly remember the identities of every single companion on this journey.

Se Yue: Not just the names, but also their heights, weights, and interests, and other things of that sort- they're all here in my mind.

Se Yue: Furthermore, I know the names, addresses, places of employment, and ages of all of their parents as well-

Wu Shi: You actually have no idea how threatening you sound when you say stuff like that, do you.

...The princess sure worked hard to make friends when she set herself to it.

Zerovirus

Se Yue: Actually, now that you've reminded me, there's some inconsistencies with what happened back then that I thought I'd try to hash out with you.

Wu Shi: ...Does this mean it's time for the whiteboard again?

Se Yue: Every day is whiteboard day in my world.

Zerovirus

Wu Shi: A worm and a demonic tree. I guess the Se Family's top-tier education isn't all it's chalked up to be when it comes to the visual arts.

Se Yue: I'm pretty sure you've already made that joke before. Also, shush, Professor Se is about to give her lecture, so just sit tight and pay attention to the board.

Se Yue: Anyways, as you likely already know, there are two general models of time travel.

Se Yue points to the straight line labeled A.

Se Yue: The single-timeline model...

She then points to the crooked tree labeled B.

Se Yue: And the parallel-timeline model.

Wu Shi: Oh, yeah, I know about parallel timelines, I've seen them show up all the time in sci-fi movies and stuff.

Wu Shi: There are an infinite number of parallel universes where anything could be possible, and all that. Like there could exist a parallel universe where there's a Wu Shi that's actually really smart, or a Wu Shi who's really adored by all the chicks.

wow, the game is really fucking roasting him now.
THE GAME FINALLY SAID THE MAGIC BULLSHIT WORDS
S C H R O D I N G E R ' S C A T
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all of us who were hoping that this would be the first game that didn't use those words, i'm so sorry for your loss
Deleted User
time travel = schrodinger's cat
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: So are we in a model-A universe or a model-B universe?

Se Yue: I'unno.

Wu Shi: Eh?

Se Yue: This is my first actual usage of the machine, and I've got far too little evidence to work with. To jump to conclusions too early is a dangerous thing, you know.

jjjqance
nooo
we've literally seen multiple different timeliens whre different things happen
oh maybe we're in a single timeline which is a quantum superposition of those timelines?
is that where we're going?
Benedict
that sure sounds like a thing that makes sense!
everything becomes clearer when Quantum gets involved
Zerovirus
you are all fools for expecting this game to go into detail
se yue just said 'y'know, like, schrodinger's cat'
and moved on
adding exactly no clarity to the story
and failing one of the major bechdel-esque tests that any bullshit pseudosciencey underwater murder mystery visual novel can possibly undergo
Benedict
can't wait for the twist where se yue didn't actually design the time machine at all and doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about
and all her bad drawings and bullshit explanations have been exactly as nonsense as they seemed
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Zerovirus
anyways, continuing...

Wu Shi: So, go ask Qian Yuan for information.

Se Yue: I... can't.

Se Yue: She's... not with us anymore.

the game pauses for like a whole second here before it lets me click forwards.

Se Yue: ...Because I told her to go attend the bonfire party. Don't worry, I put a different maid to guard the door to the VIP cabin.

nightpool
asdfghjkl;'
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: Oh, wow, you freaked me out for a moment there. Isn't this a critical point of time, though? Is it really such a good idea to send your most trusted servant away right now?

well, see, that's reasonable, but qian yuan really wanted to enjoy the barbecued meats
nightpool
come on
Deleted User
where else will she get those top quality barbecued meats
nightpool
hey wait quick question who died for the first se yue loop
Zerovirus

Se Yue: Well, it's also a young lady's responsibility to ensure that those who serve her can pursue their own personal happinesses, after all.

oh come on so qian yuan gets to enjoy the love confession barbecue but we don't? that's so unfaaaaaaair.
nightpool
do we know?
Zerovirus
she says she used our corpse, so technically 'nobody'
nightpool
she used our corpse for the second loop
but to wrest control of the timeline away from S she must have used a corpse to loop, right?
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: I am deeply moved and grateful to you on my friend Yu Guang's behalf. I know for sure the two of them will be able to find lasting happiness with each other, and my heartfelt wishes go with them. Also I'm so fucking jealous and I'm going to curse Yu Guang for getting the chances I couldn't until I die, gaaaaaaahhhhhh.

Se Yue: ...You two are friends, right?

nightpool
when she Activated The Machine.
Zerovirus
hm. yeah, if there was a corpse used there we aren't aware of one existing. it's possible that... dead-person-karma was... left in the world of the 13th car??
so if we go back to the 13th car there will now be 49 dead people instead of 48?
idk. neither of them are acting like anyone has died really, yet.
presumably S picked the corpse and was about to fire up the time engine when Se Yue dropkicked S off of the train.
jjjqance
49 unnamed characters
Deleted User
more like
49 unnamed corpses
nightpool
that makes sense narratively but doesn't really make sense with the mechanics as I understand them?
but it does give us an easy out later when wu shi saves the world summer vacation by finally looping himself
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: But, you know, that's just how friends are. We celebrate each others' successes at the same time that we take the mickey out of each other. That's just how friendship works, you make fun of each other and you make fun with each other in alternating fashion.

Se Yue: I see. So this is what they call friendship out there in the wider world...

Wu Shi: I'm sure you have friends too, princess.

Se Yue: I'm not sure any such beings exist for me.

Wu Shi: Of course you do, Qian Yuan's your friend.

(flashback to Qian Yuan telling Wu Shi to take care of the ojou-sama, even if Qian Yuan were to die.)

Wu Shi: She considers you more important than anyone else in her life. I'm sure you feel the same way about her as well.

Zerovirus

Se Yue: ...I don't think that someone to whom I continuously give unrefusable orders can be considered a 'friend' of mine.

Se Yue: Friendship requires first equal standing, and by my nature nobody can stand equally with me.

...Right, yeah. The whole Se Family Rules thing. No asking for help, no apologizing, no thanking others.

With all those things binding her, she truly has lost the privilege to speak her feelings from the heart.

If it weren't for the fact that she thought she was alone back when she left the dining car by herself, I probably wouldn't have been able to notice the longing for friendship in her heart either.

Zerovirus

Se Yue: Well, come on.

Wu Shi: Come on?

Se Yue: Since you're having to miss the bonfire party, I decided to offer you a consolation prize.

The firelight from the bonfire party poured in through the windows, painting the side of Se Yue's face flame-orange.

Se Yue: You will have the opportunity of dancing with the heiress of the Se family, this very night.

hissssss you stay away from us, vixen
our heart belongs to best girl. away! begone in the name of christ jesus!
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Deleted User
JI IS FOREVER
Zerovirus
Wu Shi, sadly, cannot hear our cries, and agrees to the dance.
jjjqance
this is why ji becomes S smh my head
jjjqance
wow after ji proposed we WENT BACK AND TIME and danced with another girl that night instead
absolute disrespect
avunvain
the father (yu guang), the son (ji hengsheng) and the holy ghost (time god)
...no yu guang probably doesn't qualify does he
Benedict
i mean, from what we know of ji, she wouldn't be mad about this- or at least, she'd claim not to be mad about this
Deleted User
N O
avunvain
maybe se yue, as ruler over this entire train
she can be god
Deleted User
Y E S
nightpool
he does if he turns out to be a lost prince
but se yue is probably still the better choice yeah
jjjqance
i want to see Ji throwing hands for her man
nightpool
i don't
avunvain
the father (se yue), the son (ji hengsheng) and the holy ghost (S just phasing through walls to murder us)
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Zerovirus

I was actually dancing with the heiress.

It felt something like a dream.

This was surely an opportunity that countless people would give so much to have in my stead.

But it was I who was receiving this honor.

Unfortunately, I'd never danced much before, and I was sure that I'd bungle it.

Se Yue: I believe that, in your previous loops, you never got to dance with miss Ji?

Wu Shi: Yeah, neither of us really liked to dance all that much.

Se Yue: So are you not enjoying this dance either, then?

Wu Shi: Well, I wouldn't say that.

Her hands were so soft as they held mine, and there was a subtle fragrance about her.

Se Yue: Has my confinement of you here caused you to miss anything important at the bonfire?

Wu Shi: Hmh...

avunvain
see, the offices of the trinity are such that ji and S can be identified with one another, as can se yue and S (causes of the tragedy of the tour of time) and ji and se (love interests)
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the trinity of culprithood
nightpool
yes
yes
yes
something really important
Deleted User
he's gonna say no
isn't he
avunvain
he had better goddamn not
nightpool
he did just jump out of a window for it
avunvain
for barbecue
nightpool
no he said in his internal monologue he was lying about that
avunvain
that said it was definitely actually - yes
Zerovirus

Yeah, I was missing Ji Hengsheng giving me her ring, and the whole thing where she asked me to propose marriage to her.

That was pretty important, no matter how you looked at it. It was the sort of thing that would change our futures forever, one way or another, after all.

But, all those countless deaths in the previous loops tore me away from those thoughts.

Because Ji Hengsheng was so important to me, I had a responsibility to her to avoid doing the same things that would lead to my death every time, and stay alive for her sake.

The me as I was now no longer wanted wanted to get her involved anymore.

Wu Shi: It's fine, she won't blame me.

I've known her for so many years, after all!

I understand exactly how she thinks, really.

As long as I'm happy and safe, then no matter what I do, she'll always choose to forgive me.

If our positions were swapped, I'd feel the same about her.

Se Yue: That's reassuring to hear.

Deleted User
WOWOOWOWOWOOWOWOW
avunvain
dancing with a girl, monologues extensively about his relationship with another girl... also wow that's...
Deleted User
feel my disappointment
avunvain
wu shi that feels like
a very possible misread
a very...
"oh she won't worry about me mysteriously disappearing before something she cares about very much"
"because nothing i do can possibly hurt her"
which is just... deeply toxic in its possibilities
Zerovirus
i don't know what the word for it is in english but the word for this in chinese is 渣男, 'detritus male'. i guess the immediate translation is 'two-timing cheating son of a bitch', but that's not as atomic a single-word concept as it is in chinese.
avunvain
garbage boy
nightpool
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thank you good night
Zerovirus
insufficiently constrained to specifically cheating
dirtbag can be applied to other circumstances outside of breaking romantic partners' hearts
Deleted User
piece of trash?
nightpool
ah
yeah we've just got "cheater"
jjjqance
unfaithful? cheater?
two-timer?
avunvain
"adulterer"?
Deleted User
loose person?
nightpool
"cheater" has a similar emotional valence but lacks the poetry of "detritus man"
jjjqance
let's just make 'detritus man' a thing
Zerovirus

Se Yue: By the way, on our previous subject.

Se Yue: You remember how, whenever you loop through time, someone has to die to be used as the fuel, don't you?

Wu Shi: Can't exactly imagine forgetting.

Se Yue: Reversing time requires the use of one dead person as fuel, and repeating is impossible.

Se Yue: Remember what I said about singular timelines versus parallel timelines?

Wu Shi: Yeah.

Se Yue: No matter which configuration we're in, as long as the user doesn't give up, the world will loop repeatedly.

Se Yue: In the single-timeline model, the world will repeat endlessly, while in the parallel worlds model, endless parallel universes will be spawned.

Wu Shi: Mm-hmm.

Se Yue: If continued, at the furthest extreme, all of humanity being used as fuel could even be within the realms of possibility.

Se Yue: To prevent this scenario, the God of Time has preserved you, the first Fuel, and allowed you to retain your consciousness.

Se Yue: You remember everything just as the user does, and are an equal to the user.

Se Yue: However, this makes you destined to oppose the user of the time machine.

Se Yue: Since, the number of times you must experience your own death is equal to the number of times the user loops time.

I remembered all the many deaths I'd experienced, and shuddered.

Se Yue: To escape the final death, you'd be incentivized to find a way to oppose the user and stop the loops.

Se Yue: To use a metaphor, it's like if the world were infected by a disease known as 'time looping syndrome', and you were the specific antibody created by the God of Time to oppose this infection.

Of course, neither path had any salvation for the so-called 'antibody'.

Failure to resist the 'infection' meant endlessly experiencing death over and over, while success meant that the antibody would die a final death.

Se Yue: Of course, I won't let you die.

Se Yue: From now on you are to stay right here in this cabin.

Se Yue: There is no way S can appear in a closed room occupied only by the two of us.

Se Yue: Furthermore, like last loop, I've established the medical and rescue teams at the terminal station.

Se Yue's preparations had been thorough. She'd done incredibly well in eliminating as many unstable variables as she could, and taken all the preparatory measures she could think of.

If even that weren't enough to save me-

i can't help but feel like se yue just repeated a lot of things we already knew
and that i wasted a lot of time thoroughly translating it
because i was expecting it to turn into theorytime or infodump time
and by the time i realized it wasn't going to be
i was already halfway in and hooked by sunk cost fallacy
Deleted User
see
avunvain
wait, was detritus man in the text or were you just thinking about how it doesn't have an exact english equivalent
Deleted User
SE YUE IS THE GOD OF TIME AFTER ALL
Zerovirus
the chinese word has- like, the colloquial slang-y nature of 'douche' or 'asshole'. 'adulterer' is close in meaning but doesn't have the same connotation of 'being something used in commonplace language'.
Zerovirus
i was just thinking about how it doesn't have an english equivalent, yeah
yu guang has called wu shi 'detritus man' once, but that's because yu guang will eternally be under the impression that wu shi is dating both qian yuan and se yue at once
because the game will never ever tire of that joke
jjjqance
S gonna call up their pal beatrice to help with the closed room
nightpool
wait did se yue just unironically reference the god of time theory
are we just
are we just going with that one
Zerovirus
remember this is the same lady who believes her time machine works because it burns up the distinctiveness of time-perception of dead souls anchored to corpses
avunvain
time christ canon
Zerovirus
what's a little time christianity on top of time hell
i mean, honestly, if we're being serious, we should take the god of time theory seriously, because APPARENTLY leading experts in the field of time travel have confirmed that souls exist to the point of building a time machine that runs on the principle
maybe we're all being like, the equivalent of idiots who deny round earth + general relativity, despite the GPS system being built on both of those premises
clearly the time machine works, so we're the ones who are wrong about time god being a dumb as fuck idea
nightpool
mmm
time souls do not a time god make
avunvain
the entity whose perception of time defines the standard for time
since time is created by perception there must be some prime mover for our current vision of causality
someone to perceive time, in such a way that people could perceive it and form ideas about it
this is time god
the uncaused causality
avunvain
and ji hengsheng is their time daughter.
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Zerovirus

Wu Shi: ...Princess.

Se Yue: Hm?

Wu Shi: Really, I've wanted to ask you for a while, what makes you want to save me so badly.

Just because I saved you in a previous loop?

Well, it wasn't like she could admit to being motivated by the desire to repay a debt, being the Se heiress.

Wu Shi: If other people sacrificing for you is right and proper, then you oughtn't need to be concerned about my wellbeing either, right?

Especially not to the point where you'd break your oath to not use the Tour of Time, and become the new user of the time machine yourself.

Se Yue: .....

Se Yue: Because I can't fail.

Her response confused me thoroughly.

Se Yue: So, I'm not doing this for you.

Se Yue: I just, can't permit myself to fail.

Yeah, I couldn't tell what she really meant here.

What did she mean by 'failure' here? The design flaws of the Tour of Time? Or the fact that she needed me to save her in the first place in one of the loops?

I got the impression she wouldn't answer me even if I asked her further, though.

Se Yue: Anyways, rest assured.

The light of determination shone brightly in her eyes.

Se Yue: I will save all of you and bear all of this by my self.

...There was no way I would ever have thought such a thing on my own, ever.

But, as the only other person in the room, it was my duty to speak the truth to her.

Wu Shi: A single person can't bear everything.

Se Yue: If you have capability and resolve, it can be done.

Wu Shi: It can't. That's not how it works.

Se Yue: As the family princess, it must be workable.

Wu Shi: I said, that's not how things work.

The dance music in the background was still playing, but at some point, the two of us had stopped dancing, and were just looking at each other, now.

In her eyes was a fierce will that looked like it wouldn't be crushed by anything.

I suddenly remembered the words that Qian Yuan said to me.

(Qian Yuan: No matter what happens to you or me, please take care of the princess.)

I finally understand.

I understand what she really meant by those words.

CONVINCE SE YUE TO CONTINUE USING THE TOUR OF TIME

CONVINCE SE YUE TO CEASE USING THE TOUR OF TIME

jjjqance
this sounds like it could hae consequences
Zerovirus
oh look it's another critical juncture point
avunvain
with hearts involved, though
Deleted User
CONTINUE
avunvain
i assume you're going to get BZZT WRONGed if you choose the incorrect one
and i think the correct one is
without a doubt
cease
Zerovirus
i think it's easy to read between the lines here. qian yuan is saying 'even if you have to accept your own death, you should do so if it's the only way to protect the princess', yeah
avunvain
by which i mean
progression is cease
save, though
jic it's a real decision
Zerovirus
it doesn't matter, if i get it wrong it'll just bring me back to the same question
the hearts persist between saveloads
avunvain
oh damn
jjjqance
oh right
avunvain
no HP regen...
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Zerovirus

Wu Shi: Let's stop all this, young mistress.

Se Yue: Stop what?

Wu Shi: Stop looping time, stop working on saving me-

Wu Shi: All this.

Ending things here would be the smallest possible sacrifice. At this point I was the only one who'd been burnt as fuel in this timeline so far, after all.

nightpool
hmm
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: Just let all this end with only one death- mine, please.

nightpool
that's not the way I would have construed "convince se yue to stop using the tour of time"
Deleted User
an actual thought from wu shi's empty brain?
what sorcery is this?
avunvain
VN protagonists must have either massively overdeveloped self-preservation instincts
or pathologically nonexistent ones
wu shi has naturally swung towards the shirou emiya end of the scale
Zerovirus

Se Yue: You're wrong; it's not possible.

Eh? I'd said something wrong?

...After this trip's end, the number of dead people should be...?

ONE

TWO

THREE

oh great it's another fucking one
Deleted User
ONE
Zerovirus
and this one tests our grasp of the mechanics of time travel
which were already kind of
shaky as is
Deleted User
what mechanics?
avunvain
two, i think? it's two corpses a loop i... think??? for some reason.
Deleted User
we are just apostles of the time god se yue
Zerovirus
i guess maybe it's something like what NP has been suggesting- there's someone else that's fainted on this cruise already since we're on the second timeline?
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so it might be two?
avunvain
also "three" just feels less dramatically appropriate.
Zerovirus
but if it were two i don't get why neither of them has brought it up yet.
avunvain
two is intimate
three is "i guess?"
Zerovirus

Se Yue: According to the rules of the Tour of Time, last time you were used as fuel, so you cannot be used as fuel again this loop.

Se Yue: That means that the Tour of Time will produce a new death this loop, whether we use it or not.

(the correct answer was apparently two.)
oh so, each loop always kills someone whether you decide to continue or not. the death isn't happening at the transition between loops, it happens during the loop whether you intend to transition into a new loop or keep the world as is.
that's slightly harsher than previously expected. someone's going to drop dead before this timeline ends.
Zerovirus

...Well, I fucked up again.

I should have had the resolve to see things through last loop, before I'd fallen off the train.

I should have convinced her to give up on looping before I died. Then I could have saved an additional life.

Failing to convince Se Yue to stop this whole exercise in pointlessness while the losses were as minimal as possible- that was my fault.

Wu Shi: Even if that's true, that doesn't justify letting the damage continue to spread.

Wu Shi: Two deaths is still the best possible outcome we can have, at this point in time.

nightpool
not true
as I'm sure se yue is about to point out
Zerovirus
Se Yue is not interested in giving up. She's filled with UndertaleHeart determination UndertaleHeart .

Wu Shi: Let's say I die again this loop. What will you do?

Se Yue: I will loop time and work on the third loop to save you.

Wu Shi: And if I die again?

Se Yue: Then I will loop a fourth loop.

Wu Shi: And when I die again-

Se Yue: I'm going to loop time until I can save you. That is not up for debate.

Wu Shi: ...Young lady, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to burst your bubble, here.

Se Yue: What do you mean?

Wu Shi: Do you not see how you are changing?

I let go of her hand.

Wu Shi: You are slowly becoming S.

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jjjqance
O:
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: Repeating the world of the 14th train car... we both know better than most where this path leads, eventually.

Wu Shi: I finally understand why there is no sign of anybody like S appearing, in this world of the 14th train car.

Wu Shi: Because...

Wu Shi: You are S.

dramatic but also wrong
ji is S basically confirmed
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nightpool
plot twist S is related to like the train driver or something
we've seen S's face and it's not Ji's though
JaxThePyro
Didn’t Se Yue get hamburgered by S during one of the earlier loops?
jjjqance
maid army
Zerovirus

Se Yue: I'm not like S!

Se Yue: S failed, but that doesn't mean I'm going to fail like S did!

Wu Shi: Young lady.

Wu Shi: As the princess of the Se house, I know that you're not permitted to let others see the inner workings of your heart.

Wu Shi: I think I understand what's going on in your heart far more than you imagine.

Se Yue: Don't get too familiar with me.

Se Yue: ...We've seen each other all of, like, three times, across these loops.

Wu Shi: Oh, I beg to differ.

Wu Shi: While you only have the memory of the previous three loops,

Wu Shi: I have the whole unvarnished memory of all 48 loops inside the 13th train car, as well as the loops you remember.

Wu Shi: Don't you think it's strange how obsessed you are with saving me?

Wu Shi: It's too much, for a stranger such as me.

Wu Shi: Not to mention being so free with me as to dance with me.

Se Yue: You're overthinking things. These are just the kinds of things that the successor of the Se house ought to do.

Wu Shi: Really.

Wu Shi: Have you heard of a little thing called the Mandela Effect? Or Deja Vu?

Se Yue: ...Are you trying to say that, the 48 previous loops that I don't remember nevertheless had an effect on my personality, which is why I'm not at all suspicious of you and why I'm so fixated on you?

Wu Shi: Is it such a strange theory? It ought to be normal, for us mortals bound by fate, to also be bound by those emotions carelessly woven and discarded by fate as well, shouldn't it?

Wu Shi: I've watched you over these past 50 timelines, seen you struggle against S to protect us students, and I know what kind of person you are.

Wu Shi: You're right- you're not like S, who performs cruel experiments just to gain power over time.

Wu Shi: Se Yue.

I spoke her name specifically to gain her attention.

Wu Shi: You're just a person who doesn't want others to die pointlessly, right?

Se Yue: ...I have not given you permission to libel my image with your careless suppositions.

Se Yue: As the heir of the Se family, I would never do anything selflessly for others.

Wu Shi: ...Young lady, take my advice. Stop now, while you still can.

Se Yue: ...But you'll die, if the loop's just allowed to end here.

Wu Shi: That is preferable to eking out a tortured half-existence between ceaseless deaths every twenty-four hours.

Se Yue: Your parents will be sad.

Wu Shi: Such is fate.

Se Yue: When your friends Yu Guang and Ji Hengsheng see your death, they'll be left with lasting memories of it, an indelible lifetime trauma, y'know.

That got me to hesitate, just a bit.

Wu Shi: ...Ultimately, I have faith in them.

Wu Shi: I have faith that they will be able to stand up and rise above the shadow that I unfortunately must cast on their lives. I believe in their inner strength, and I believe that despite what I must do to them, they will be able to attain the happiness they so deserve in their own good time.

Se Yue: ...You three really are friends, then.

Se Yue: Regardless, I-

Wu Shi: Hang on what's that noise.

There's apparently the sound of some kind of leak in the room!
Zerovirus

Se Yue: Huh.

Se Yue: Didn't expect that to happen so fast.

Wu Shi: Hey, uh, princess, what's, happening? What's that sound?

Se Yue: Humans are bound to fate and incapable of resisting?

Se Yue: Don't give me that garbage.

I was starting to see it- white mist, or smoke, in the air. Some kind of white aerosol was being pumped into the room, and it obscured my vision, so that I couldn't see anything clearly anymore.

avunvain
SE YUE WHY DO YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR BEDROOM
Zerovirus
hey hey hey wait what
se yue what the fuck are you doing
Deleted User
nonononononononono
avunvain
SE YUE WHY DO YOU HAVE BUILT IN SMOKE BOMBS
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: Se Yue what the FUCK are you DOING?!

Se Yue: I thought I'd explained already.

Se Yue: Like I said-

Se Yue: It seems to be inevitable that the Original Fuel who becomes designated as the antibody by the God of TIme,

Se Yue: Must come into conflict with the User of the loops sooner or later.

jjjqance
whaaaaa
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: PRINCESS YOU CANNOT DO THIS-

Se Yue: I'm not trying to oppose the God of Time, you understand.

Se Yue: I'm just certain that there must be as-yet unexplored principles of reality, that will in the end enable a world where everyone can smile together.

so, in response to us expressing that we want to give up, she is... tranquilizing us with aerosolized gas.
and presumably she will keep doing this at the start of future loops, now.
jjjqance
so uh
Zerovirus
since, remember, we start the loops in her room
jjjqance
does Se Yue have a gas mask or something?
JaxThePyro
That seems kinda dumb
Zerovirus
which means we're kind of trapped in a spawn-kill region.
yeah i mean this can all be solved by wu shi actively going back in time by himself
find any random schmuck to use as fuel and operate the time machine himself
and THEN avoid telling anybody about what happened and jump off the train immediately.
jjjqance
er he can't do that if he gets smoked at the beginning of each loop right?
Zerovirus
yes.
Deleted User
man
Zerovirus
he can no longer do that.
because he was dumb enough to try to convince the princess to stop on her own terms.
and now he is going to be spawnkilled every loop.
Deleted User
se yue is giving off real evil genius vibes
jjjqance
oh right
when we were in her perspective it turned out that she's actually pretty Se-pilled
Zerovirus

Wu Shi: ...Don't...

I couldn't keep my eyelids open anymore.

Wu Shi: You'll... end up... like S......

Se Yue: Good night, Wu Shi.

Se Yue: Everything will be over when you wake up.

well, really, se yue's not necessarily planning to loop again yet
we the viewers are expecting that, but se yue still thinks, if she tranquilizes him, ties him up, and makes sure nothing wrong happens to the tunnel or the train, and prepares for every possible contingency at the terminal station, then she can just get away with saving wu shi
that's not going to fucking happen but se yue doesn't agree with us.
avunvain
excited for Se Yue's S Simulator
Zerovirus
she still thinks that she can unironically just wake wu shi up in two days and have him be fine.
jjjqance
ji gonna rescue our boy???
Zerovirus
just watch as the gas somehow gives him an allergic reaction or a stroke or something.
jjjqance
(and accidentally get him killed)
Zerovirus
honestly i could see qian yuan rescuing wu shi
and so we fade to black. now we're at some arbitrary point in time and space! hooray for total lack of narrative constraint!
...yeahp, gonna cut it here
this is a good cliffhanger-y point!
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Deleted User
thanks
jjjqance
thanks for translating!
nightpool
SMALL SMOKE BOMBS
I'm so
Zerovirus
where were the small smoke bombs when S was turning you into hamburger a few loops ago
oh, right, you didn't want to say the activation codewords in front of the obvious badguy
that actually makes complete sense, yeah,
nightpool
obviously she hadn't set them up yet
jjjqance
uh well
S actually wears a gas mask
wait
maybe that's WHY they wear a gas mask
Zerovirus
"yeah the s costume exists actually as anti-smoke countermeasures, that's why we had a set lying around for qian yuan to use"
jjjqance
i can't believe
they just didn't comment
on where she got the fuckin costume
Zerovirus
notably the game didn't give us the 'whoops you died, time to spirally loop time all over again' effect
so maybe we're still in the same loop?
which implies that the control phrase activates not JUST the time machine, but ALSO the smoke bombs, and where one speaks the contral phrase to the control crest determines what happens?
it'd be weird otherwise if every time you use the time machine you also set off the small bombs for no real reason.
jjjqance
wait
was there an indication that the small smoke bombs were triggered by a code phrase?
Zerovirus
yeah, she speaks the same code phrase as the one that activates the time machine, in one of the screenshots i posted
Zerovirus
this one
which, hey. i guess now we know the code phrase. though we don't know it's the code phrase TO the time machine yet i guess.
...actually, no, the hissing started happening BEFORE she said it
which implies the switch is
somewhere else??
and she's just using the code phrase either to sound badass, or because she decided to loop ANYWAYS despite this being a perfectly fine loop for trying to save us
who knows.
i guess we might find out when i continue.
Zerovirus
oh, slight correction: it's not a P█kachu-themed chest pad, it's a P█kachu-themed oppai mousepad
syntactically similar but very distinct objects
which also raises the question of, uh,
which, component, of a pikachu's anatomy,
has oppai suitable for supporting your wrists while you use a mouse,
dysphere
I looked it up and I don’t see it either
Maybe it’s a female of that species
nightpool
the butt, of course
jjjqance
uhhhhh
wtf
nightpool
I feel like I've seen that exact mousepad
avunvain
i feel like i might not want to answer that question
avunvain
why
Zerovirus
agreement
Deleted User
why not?
Zerovirus
i did not need to see that in my life
jesus
qian yuan you're into some freaky shit
Subrosian Smithy
the little 'x'... i hate it
jjjqance
wow
i can't believe this exists and was referenced in a piece of literature
Zerovirus
I’m so angry that this image is in the page whenever i load this tab that i’m going to fucking spam this channel just to get that horrible pikachu ass off the page
Spam spam spam spam get that shit out of here.
Whomever made and sold that thing will surely burn in the depths of the distortion realm.
avunvain
the dwha
i say, moving the image further away
lurina
would it be an abuse of power to delete the pikachu image just because it upsets me personally
Deleted User
Y E S
pikapower all the way
avunvain
that said please abuse your power
or at least spoiler the image
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lurina
discord does not give you the option to edit other people's messages unfortunately
it's all or nothing
Deleted User
then go ALL THE WAY
avunvain
you can post a contextualizing link to the image that isn't thumbnailed
lurina
@JaxThePyro, i apologize but i have removed your pikachu mousepad image by popular demand
JaxThePyro
Apology fully accepted
jjjqance
I do regret anyone who reads the backlog won't get the full experience
Why shouldn't they have to suffer just as we have
Linebeck
I see I've missed a lot
Benedict
wow what the fuck happened in here
i'm kind of glad i missed it
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